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	<title>Comments on: Apparently I am doing oral history</title>
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		<title>By: Another Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://prisonnotebooks.com/2010/05/03/apparently-i-am-doing-oral-history/comment-page-1/#comment-10548</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 03:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish someone had told my IRB that I was doing Oral History and that it should be excluded...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish someone had told my IRB that I was doing Oral History and that it should be excluded&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dresner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 19:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In theory, all IRBs should have an Oral History exemption, as both the premier history associations and leading IRB guidance groups have repeatedly said that oral history doesn&#039;t compute with the definitions of &#039;research&#039; used by IRBs. That they don&#039;t, and you had to go through this at all, demonstrates a kind of institutional inertia with regard to letting go of power that speaks very poorly of academics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In theory, all IRBs should have an Oral History exemption, as both the premier history associations and leading IRB guidance groups have repeatedly said that oral history doesn&#8217;t compute with the definitions of &#8216;research&#8217; used by IRBs. That they don&#8217;t, and you had to go through this at all, demonstrates a kind of institutional inertia with regard to letting go of power that speaks very poorly of academics.</p>
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		<title>By: derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is orders of magnitude less in scope and complexity compared to what you are dealing with, but I remember back in high school when participating in the science fair that if you used animals or humans in any way for your project, you had to fill out tons of paperwork, release forms, etc. even if you were doing nothing more than a simple questionnaire/survey.  Of course my projects were always in the math/physics category so I never had to deal with any of that.

Still though, I have colleagues that do cancer research, and the sheer amount of paperwork they have to go through just for testing on rats is unbelievable.  I can&#039;t imagine how much worse it would be for human subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is orders of magnitude less in scope and complexity compared to what you are dealing with, but I remember back in high school when participating in the science fair that if you used animals or humans in any way for your project, you had to fill out tons of paperwork, release forms, etc. even if you were doing nothing more than a simple questionnaire/survey.  Of course my projects were always in the math/physics category so I never had to deal with any of that.</p>
<p>Still though, I have colleagues that do cancer research, and the sheer amount of paperwork they have to go through just for testing on rats is unbelievable.  I can&#8217;t imagine how much worse it would be for human subjects.</p>
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